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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

Post by Will » 8 years ago

So it's not a problem then?


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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

Post by Akzlo » 8 years ago

Fabresass wrote:So it's not a problem then?
i will try one more and then upload the pictures for you, but something defenitely changed, they look just not exactly the same, but you can look at it yourself in a few minutes.

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Thanks.
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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

Post by Akzlo » 8 years ago

ok pal, uploading right now, takes a few minutes since my internet is pretty bad... but i found a good example: your falcao, i took fotos with adjusted and not adjusted parameters since i had to change a few things into the opposite to make it look like in pes2011, and it seems i was right after all, the jawbone parameter belongs to those.

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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

Post by Akzlo » 8 years ago

So here is the result (sorry for double posting, but i think it is necessary in this case ;P):

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Fabresass wrote:Joey Barton:

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Hair: Short/Straight/61/4-2-0

Base: 1/13/6/0/-3,-7/+1/-1/0/-1/7/0,-1/-1
Brows: 1/2/1/0/+1/-2/+5/-4/3/4-2-0
Eyes: 1/2/0/0/+2/+2/-2,0/+1/+1/-3/0/0,0/Bright/6
Ears: +4/-2,-5
Nose: 0,2/2,0/0/-1/1,0/+3
Mouth: 1/-2/+1/2,3/-1,0/-2,-2/-1
Jaw: -1/-1/+1
Beard: 7/4/4-2-0
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IMG_0752 von Akzlo auf Flickr
Fabresass wrote:José Enrique (Liverpool):

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Hair: Short/Straight/48/R5,G3,B0

Base:1/8/5/+5/-3,3/-1/-1/+1/+3/6/1,-2/-3
Brows:2/2/1/-3/-3/-4/+1/+5/4/black
Eyes:13/11/+1/-3/-3/-4/0,0/+1/-2/-5/+1/-3,0/bright/1
Ears:0/0,0
Nose:6,3/3,7/-2/-1/1,6/-1
Mouth:7/-3/-2/-1,-4/-4,0/5,1/-2
Jaw:+5/0/-2
Beard:27/4/black
And here comes the best example:
not adjusted:
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adjusted parameters:
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what have i done to readjust it? as you can see, the eyes are to far away from each other, so i changed this parameter from 2,0 to -2,0. the mouth looks strange too, so i readjust the parameters concerning the upper lip from 7,0 to -7,0 and the parameters for the bottom lip from 6,4 to -6,4. and also the mouth is too far into the face, so i changed this parameter to 2,1. There is also an evidence, that only the parameter for the length of the nose was changed: since it was 3,0 and the 0 stands for the length, i doesn't have to readjust this one. and i changed the parameter for the jawbones from -1,2 to -1,-2 which is also an evidence that this parameter has to be turned around for the second parameter. that's what i've done, you can see your picture above to compare those. ;)
Fabresass wrote:Falcao:

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Hair - Danny, Zenit

Base: 2/9/3/-3/-1,2/+1/-2/-1/-2/1/1,0/+2
Brows: 7/3/2/+1/-1/+1/+1/+4/4/Black
Eyes: 13/5/+1/+1/-1-2/2,0//0/0/0/0/1,0/Bright/1 (Black/grey)
Ears: +1/1,-2
Nose: 1,2/3,0/-3/-1/-2,0/-1
Mouth: 5/-1/+2/-2,-1/7,0/6,4/0
Jaw: +2/-1/-4
Beard: 20/1/Grey (12-12-12)
you can also see this changes in the pictures from joey barton and jose enrique: the bottom lip of enrique is too big and the jawbones of barton are too low. so if you sum it up, you have to make the following changes:

jawbones: second parameter in the opposite
Eyeposition: first parameter in the opposite
Nose: parameter concerning the length in the opposite
mouth: bottom lip and upper lip - first parameter into oposite, and the depth of the mouth the first parameter into oposite

if you change these things in your formulas, the faces will look almost the same, although you can see that there are still minor differences like falcaos chin-length is slightly shorter than in the pes2011 version. but i think the falcao looks awesome. :D i will test some other faces by changing these things for proving my theses tomorrow. but i can't say if it#s valid for every face, so some more tests will show the effect...

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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

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Felipe Santana (Borussia Dortmund)

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Hairsytle: Very short, straight, 6, black

Base: 5, 6, 5, 0, [3,-3], +1, 0, +2, -3, 6, [2,4], +4
Eyebrows: 6, 2, 1, +4, -7, +3, +1, +3, 4, black
Eyes: 7, 13, -2, -5, +1, +5, [-2,4], +2, +1, +4, +3, [2,-1], bright, 6
Ears: -3, [3,-1]
Nose: [-3,-3], [1,-4], +1, +4, [-2,4], +4
Mouth: 7, +3, +4, [3,0], [0,4], [1,4], +2
Jaw: +3, +4, -4, 7
Facial hair: 16, 1, Color: [8, 1, 0]

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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

Post by DanWally » 8 years ago

i think this is my fav face so far! it even has the moody eyes! :lol:
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Post by Will » 8 years ago

Couldn't agree more with Dan, absolutely stunning face as usual man! :D Don't know how the face looks in-game, but a quick tip would be to move his face a tad higher up, his forehead looks slightly big compared to the photo. But like I said, don't know how it looks in-game, som might be wrong. Great face dude! (y)
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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

Post by Akzlo » 8 years ago

Fabresass wrote:Couldn't agree more with Dan, absolutely stunning face as usual man! :D Don't know how the face looks in-game, but a quick tip would be to move his face a tad higher up, his forehead looks slightly big compared to the photo. But like I said, don't know how it looks in-game, som might be wrong. Great face dude! (y)
yeah you're right, it is slightly big compared with the photo, but it looked weird when i moved the face higher up, i think it has to do with the proportions between the eyes and the ears, the face is in the right position, but the head is too big, maybe it could also be fixed by using an other "hairsytle"? i thought about using the "hair" of majstorovic from sweden NT, i will check on that later. ;P btw. did you see the post concerning your faces? i think the falcao makes clear what has to be done, i will check some more if there is time. ;)

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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

Post by HammeredPizza » 8 years ago

Eden Hazard here - well, it's supposed to be. His eyes are very difficult, but this face is only in beta testing. I will continue to tweak it, but as I am working in the demo I must post it so I have a record of where I got to.
Also, if anyone knows what his hairstyle is at the moment, posting that would be hugely appreciated.
Sorry for the image quality, the picture was taken using my laptop.

Eden Hazard - Lille
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Just for assurance sake, he looks much better than that in-game.

Hair: Very Short, Straight, 20, 4-1-0
Base: 1, 11, 1, 0, (-2,-1), -1, 0, -3, +6, 3, (0,1), 0
Brows: 7, 1, 1, 0, -7, -1, -2, -3, 4, 4-1-0
Eyes: 1, 4, +3, -3, +6, -1, (-2,-1/0), 0, -3, -2, +1, (0,-7) Bright, 2
Ears: 0, (0,-7)
Nose: (1,-4), (1,0), -3, -1, (-5,-2), -1
Mouth: 1, -1, +2, (-1,0), (4,0), (1,-2), +4
Jaw: -5, 0, +1, 0
Facial Hair: 13, 2, 4-1-0

I have not attempted to create this face on PES 2011. Any face created on PES 2011 will not be representative of the final version.
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Re: The Appearance Thread [PES 2012]

Post by DanWally » 8 years ago

everything i have found suggests the hair is the same, i think its quite a good likeness! (clap)
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Post by apparentlyrich » 8 years ago

DanWally wrote:everything i have found suggests the hair is the same, i think its quite a good likeness! (clap)
I agree. Great job.

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Post by HammeredPizza » 8 years ago

Thanks people. Anyone got any ideas of what player to do next?
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Post by Kele » 8 years ago

HammeredPizza wrote:Thanks people. Anyone got any ideas of what player to do next?
Beram Kayal of Celtic? ;)
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Post by FlyHigh » 8 years ago

HammeredPizza wrote:Thanks people. Anyone got any ideas of what player to do next?
Tom "Chunks" Cleverley :-D
BTW does anyone knows whose face is updated with the DLC?

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