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[FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by Mike » Tue Nov 18, 2014 3:55 pm

Please use this thread to report back any incorrect or missing data that you have found in PES 2015.

This includes but is not limited to:
  • - Player appearance (hairstyle, hair/skin colour, etc)
    - Nationality
    - Stronger Foot
    - Age
    - Main and secondary positions
    - Player Name (Standard format must be A. PLAYER << notice the space between the full stop and surname)
    - Accessories (wrist/ankle tape, winter gloves, long socks, etc).
When posting below, please leave an official source (up-to-date photo/link). Also feel free to use the form below when sharing your feedback.

As a community, let's help make the PES player database as accurate as it can be. :-)

Any questions? Please don't hesitate to ask. Thank you in advance.

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[b]Player's National Team / Club:[/b] 
[b]Incorrect/Missing data:[/b] 
[b]Fix:[/b] 
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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by Mike » Tue Nov 18, 2014 4:48 pm

Example:

Player Name: Ryan Mason
Player's National Team / Club: Tottenham
Incorrect/Missing data: Hair colour not dark enough
Fix: Dark Brown
Source:
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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by rash81 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:49 pm

Player Name: Javier Pastore
Player's National Team: Argentina / Club: PSG
Incorrect/Missing data: His Face need to rework & his hair still same before two years
Fix: His hair is short now and special
source : http://s.psg.fr/psg/image/joueur/hd/12/2374.jpg

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by rash81 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 9:59 pm

Player Name: D'alessandro
Player's National Team: Argentina / Club: SC Internacional
Incorrect/Missing data: He has preset face while he had his real face in PES2014
Fix: Need to update his face
Source: http://imguol.com/c/esporte/2013/11/24/ ... 0x1080.jpg

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by rash81 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:04 pm

Player Name: A. RABIOT
Player's National Team: France / Club: PSG
Incorrect/Missing data: He need an updated real face
Fix: Fix his face
Source: http://s.psg.fr/psg/image/joueur/hd/14/2733.jpg

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by rash81 » Tue Nov 18, 2014 10:10 pm

Player Name: E. Lamela
Player's National Team: Argentina / Club: Tottenham
Incorrect/Missing data: He don't have his actual look
Fix: His hair , his face and his stats
Source: http://www.zerozero.pt/img/jogadores/39 ... lamela.jpg

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by songoku » Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:26 am

Thank you for this great thread!

Player Name: J. Mata
Player's National Team / Club: Manchester United
Incorrect/Missing data: Primary postition should not be SS
Fix: Primary position should be AMF
Source (post photo or link as evidence): J. MATA

Player Name: K. Asamoah
Player's National Team / Club: Juventus F.C.
Incorrect/Missing data: Dosen't have secodary position DMF
Fix: Secodary position should be DMF as well
Source (post photo or link as evidence): K. ASAMOAH


Also player stats for some players are too low, example:

Player Name: S. DOUMBIA
Player's National Team / Club: PFC CSKA MOSKVA
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for body balance and finishing are too low
Fix: Should have better stats for body balance and finishing
Source (post photo or link as evidence): S. DOUMBIA

Player Name: HERNANES
Player's National Team / Club: INTERNAZIONALE MILANO
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for passing and kicking power are too low
Fix: Should have better stats for passing and kicking power
Source (post photo or link as evidence): HERNANES

Player Name: M. HUMMELS
Player's National Team / Club: Free Agents / GERMANY
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for defensive prowess and ball winning are too low
Fix: Should have better stats for defensive prowess and ball winning
Source (post photo or link as evidence): M. HUMMELS

Player Name: DANILO
Player's National Team / Club: FC PORTO
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for body balance and passing are too low
Fix: Should have better stats for body balance and passing
Source (post photo or link as evidence): DANILO


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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by Mike » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:10 am

songoku wrote:Player Name: J. Mata
Player's National Team / Club: Manchester United
Incorrect/Missing data: Primary postition should not be SS
Fix: Primary position should be AMF
Source (post photo or link as evidence): J. MATA
All good, apart from your source. I know he's an 'SS' on the game... but now you need to prove to me that his main position is an 'AMF'.

The same goes for your other recommendations. You need to show me why Doumbia's finishing should be higher: highlight reels, videos, conversion rates, etc.

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by floriank90 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 10:57 am

The players beneath can definitely play these 'inocrrect' positions, but they're definitely not their main positions (anymore).

Player Name: T. Kroos
Player's National Team / Club: Real Madrid
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position AMF
Fix: Main position CMF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/toni-kro ... eler/31909

Player Name: I. Rakitic
Player's National Team / Club: FC Barcelona
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position AMF
Fix: Main position CMF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ivan-rak ... eler/32467

Player Name: S. Feghouli
Player's National Team / Club: Valencia CF
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position AMF
Fix: Main position RMF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/sofiane- ... eler/57162

Player Name: Á. Correa
Player's National Team / Club: Atlético Madrid
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position AMF
Fix: Main position CF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/angel-co ... ler/266807

Player Name: H. M. Son
Player's National Team / Club: Bayer 04 Leverkusen
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position CF
Fix: Main position LF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/heung-mi ... eler/91845

Player Name: Casemiro
Player's National Team / Club: FC Porto
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position CMF
Fix: Main position DMF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/casemiro ... eler/16306

Player Name: D. Blind
Player's National Team / Club: Manchester United
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position LB
Fix: Main position DMF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/daley-bl ... eler/12282

Player Name: Munir
Player's National Team / Club: FC Barcelona
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position LF
Fix: Main position RF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/munir-el ... ler/223725

Player Name: F. Thauvin
Player's National Team / Club: Olympique Marseille
Incorrect/Missing data: Main position LMF
Fix: Main position RMF
Source: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/florian- ... ler/184892

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by GradeACallum » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:03 am

i do have to agree with the Blind position. Yes he played as LB in the World Cup but he won the player of the year award last season whilst playing as DMF for Ajax. it is also his main position for Man United this season. LB and CB should be secondary positions for him.
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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by songoku » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:16 am

Mike wrote:
songoku wrote:Player Name: J. Mata
Player's National Team / Club: Manchester United
Incorrect/Missing data: Primary postition should not be SS
Fix: Primary position should be AMF
Source (post photo or link as evidence): J. MATA
All good, apart from your source. I know he's an 'SS' on the game... but now you need to prove to me that his main position is an 'AMF'.

The same goes for your other recommendations. You need to show me why Doumbia's finishing should be higher: highlight reels, videos, conversion rates, etc.
OK, sorry, my mistake, now I understand.

Here I go again :)

Player Name: J. Mata
Player's National Team / Club: Manchester United
Incorrect/Missing data: Primary postition should not be SS J. MATA
Fix: Primary position should be AMF
Source (post photo or link as evidence): On Transfermarkt his main position is AMF http://www.transfermarkt.com/juan-mata/ ... eler/44068 and you can see on link "Performance data" his position when he plays is AMF http://www.transfermarkt.com/juan-mata/ ... eler/44068
and also on Wiki he is AMF http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Mata

Player Name: K. Asamoah
Player's National Team / Club: Juventus F.C.
Incorrect/Missing data: Dosen't have secodary position DMF K. ASAMOAH
Fix: Secodary position should be DMF as well
Source (post photo or link as evidence): He mainly plays LB, LMF and CMF which is fine in the game(PES15), but before he come to Juventus, in his Udinese days he played DMF position also http://www.transfermarkt.com/kwadwo-asa ... aison/2011 , so I think he should have a secodary position DMF, also with LB and CMF.


Also player stats for some players are too low, example:

Player Name: S. DOUMBIA
Player's National Team / Club: PFC CSKA MOSKVA
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for body balance and finishing are too low S. DOUMBIA
Fix: Should have better stats for body balance and finishing
Source (post photo or link as evidence): On PES Stats Database he has better stats http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=10051 , also on FIFA15 http://www.futwiz.com/en/fifa15/player/ ... umbia/5275
Doumbia was voted the Russian Premier League Player of the Year after netting 24 goals in 30 league games during the calendar year as well as five Champions League goals in as many games.

Doumbia won the Golden Boot as he netted 23 goals in the initial league campaign, seven more than closest rival Alexandr Kerzhakov, and added five more goals in the Championship Group as well as providing 11 assists throughout the season.

Doumbia scored two first-half goals, the first of which was within two minutes of kick-off, as CSKA won 2–1 at Manchester City in the Champions League group stage on 5 November 2014.
from Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seydou_Doumbia

And here is a video [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6o2NJV72BE[/youtube]

Player Name: HERNANES
Player's National Team / Club: INTERNAZIONALE MILANO
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for passing and kicking power are too low HERNANES
Fix: Should have better stats for passing and kicking power
Source (post photo or link as evidence): Better stats on PES Stats Database http://pesstatsdatabase.com/viewtopic.p ... &start=180 and on FIFA15 http://www.futhead.com/15/players/786/hernanes/

Early days [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMNOAWfRasQ[/youtube]

and top 10 goals[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2-kDeQMvFU[/youtube]

Player Name: M. HUMMELS
Player's National Team / Club: Free Agents / GERMANY
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for defensive prowess and ball winning are too low M. HUMMELS
Fix: Should have better stats for defensive prowess and ball winning
Source (post photo or link as evidence):
Hummels' performances that season displayed great quality in tackling, positioning, and composure. He has attracted praise from pundits and coaches alike, and he is considered one of the best defenders in the Bundesliga, and in Europe.

On 11 July, Hummels was named on the 10-man shortlist for FIFA's Golden Ball award for the tournament's best player.
from Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mats_Hummels
FIFA15 stats http://www.futhead.com/15/players/37/mats-hummels/

Video [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7oFhXbdssM[/youtube]

Player Name: DANILO
Player's National Team / Club: FC PORTO
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for body balance and passing are too low DANILO
Fix: Should have better stats for body balance and passing
Source (post photo or link as evidence): I don't reall have some concrete evidence for him, but he is young so he will get his stats upgraded eventually :)

Thank you :)

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by floriank90 » Wed Nov 19, 2014 1:34 pm

-> i think PES Stats Database and FIFA stats shouldn't be a valid source in general because their stats are so much higher than what we have right now in PES 2015. And as Thomas Broad has tweeted some weeks ago the new stat system is about 'highlighting the strengths and weaknesses of a player' which is definitely the right way. Especially 'PES Stats Database' is doing the exact opposite and FIFA has got a totally different stat system wich makes it difficult to compare with.
I'm not saying that those sites can't be taken seriously - just to be handled with care.

-> youtube- videos are also controversial as there are only showing the best- of- moments. (for stats like speed they can be quite useful though).

-> the form and success of a player's team should as well not result directly in an increase or decrease of a player's stats...

alltogether stats are extremely hard to proof on a reliable level.
It's easier when stats are clearly wrong. for example: Lavezzi: speed 80 (same as Ibarhimovic, tévez, götze or maicon :S). it wouldn't be too hard to prove without any doubt that he deserves much more (which I'm not gonna do right now as I'm awaiting the live update tomorrow first...).

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by Mike » Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:00 pm

Great work, guys. Keep it coming. :)
songoku wrote:Player Name: K. Asamoah
Player's National Team / Club: Juventus F.C.
Incorrect/Missing data: Dosen't have secodary position DMF K. ASAMOAH
When was the last time he played in DMF? Has he ever played there for Juventus? And if so, how many times?

I ask these questions so we can ensure that the database is as up to date as possible.
floriank90 wrote:I'm not saying that those sites can't be taken seriously - just to be handled with care.
A very fair point. It's also worth stressing that people will always argue when it comes to player stats. It's rarely straightforward, however, our target will always be to satisfy as many people as we can. And of course, we're always on the lookout for feedback.

In terms of posting sources, I personally prefer to use at least three. And reliable ones too - Whoscored and transfermartk are great, but sites such as Wikipedia aren't useful as their pages can be edited by anyone.

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by songoku » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:22 pm

I totally agree with you guys.
Mike wrote:Great work, guys. Keep it coming. :)
songoku wrote:Player Name: K. Asamoah
Player's National Team / Club: Juventus F.C.
Incorrect/Missing data: Dosen't have secodary position DMF K. ASAMOAH
When was the last time he played in DMF? Has he ever played there for Juventus? And if so, how many times?
He doesn't play DMF for Juventus, he plays LMF/LB/CMF, but in the past he played DMF, so I am just saying that he could play DMF if necessary, as you can see here:)

OK, here are links from more famous sites :D

Player Name: S. DOUMBIA
Player's National Team / Club: PFC CSKA MOSKVA
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for body balance and finishing are too low S. DOUMBIA
Fix: Should have better stats for body balance and finishing
Source (post photo or link as evidence):
uefa.com: CSKA's Doumbia and Slutski honoured in Russia
bbc.com: Doumbia is Russia's Player of the Year

Player Name: M. HUMMELS
Player's National Team / Club: Free Agents / GERMANY
Incorrect/Missing data: Stats for defensive prowess and ball winning are too low M. HUMMELS
Fix: Should have better stats for defensive prowess and ball winning
Source (post photo or link as evidence):
bbc.com: World Cup 2014: Fifa announces Golden Ball shortlist(Hummels included)
bleacherreport.com: Why Dortmund's Mats Hummels Is the Most Complete Center-Back in Europe
and I mean how can J. BOATENG and P. MERTESACKER be better than M. HUMMELS...

And for others I couldn't find famous sites links :)

But this year KONAMI did a great yob with player stats, much more accourate for most players, respect.


EDIT: This is a list of players whose stats need to be fixed http://pesdb.net/pes2015/?finishing=80- ... ping=80-80
they all came with first DLC, and as you can see they all have 80 for Finishing, Swerve, Ball Winning and Goalkeeping(!). Hope KONAMI will fix this soon.

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Re: [FEEDBACK] PES 2015: Incorrect & Missing Data

Post by Mike » Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:50 pm

songoku wrote:He doesn't play DMF for Juventus, he plays LMF/LB/CMF, but in the past he played DMF, so I am just saying that he could play DMF if necessary
If he ends up playing there for Juventus this season, then we can give him the DMF role. However, if he hasn't played DMF for his current club (or national team) then I don't believe the position should be added. We want to keep the database modern and realistic.

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